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So, we all have heard at some point that we need to join Facebook. I’ve resisted for years, but after hearing the same advice from different sources I trust in the same week, I decided to finally create my Facebook profile (you need one if you want an author page). I did this in the last week of March, BTW.
You’re supposed to set up your profile properly (birthdate, favourite books, a couple of photos, a cover photo, bio, social media links, etc.). I wasn’t nearly done, when suddenly I was locked out of my newly created account. I had to verify my identity by sending them a clear photo of my face.
Twenty-four hours later I tried logging in. I was still locked out. Why did they lock it? “Suspicious activity.” Really? Creating an account and answering their questions is “suspicious activity”?
Thirty-six hours later when I tried to log on again, I got a notice that my account has been disabled. Why? Because either I was using a fake name (really?) or impersonating someone (myself?). The appeal was denied (you have to send a copy of your ID). [Let’s not get into how my driver’s licence photo looks different every five years, and my ID photo from half a lifetime ago even more so.]
It just reaffirmed why I never wanted to be on this particular social network in the first place. I did exactly what was asked of me and I got treated like a criminal. Note: not one of the other social media platforms had ever treated me like this. So why would I want to do business with one that does?
I hate to say “I told you so”, but… *Shrugs.*
Let’s first look at why you need a Facebook account as an author:
- To join writing and publishing groups (like the Alliance of Independent Authors).
- To have a presence on Facebook (even if you only update your feed with your newest blog posts, like I do on Google+).
- To be able to run Facebook Ads (which can apparently do your book sales a world of good).
From anecdotes I’ve heard at most writing events I’ve attended, having a personal Facebook account is like inviting people to take over your space and complain about whatever they want to complain about. I’ve read the same thing online on the blogs of friends from all over the globe.
Still I listened to well-meant advice and tried to create an account… Silly me for going against my instincts.
Of course one should join as many author groups that can help you as possible – especially when you’re Indie. But why are some of them only on Facebook? With the Author Toolbox Blog Hop we share our knowledge and experience on our blogs – an open platform. With the Insecure Writer’s Support Group you can join them on Facebook, Twitter, Goodreads, their blog and your own blog (once a month). There are even groups that have created their own closed forums (like Kristen Lamb’s WANA tribe.)
And if you really want to keep up with someone’s writing/blogging/life events, you can sign up for their email newsletter (or just stay in touch!).
You want a presence on Facebook? According to the new algorithm changes, there’s no more place for organic growth. Which means that your followers will only see a fraction of what you post in their own newsfeeds.
There are so many places where you can set up your author bio and links (Twitter, Goodreads, Google+, Amazon, your blog/website), that it isn’t make or break to have a Facebook profile or page.
As for Facebook Ads? Here’s what the experts have to say about them.
- Facebook Ads Work: How to Use Facebook to Reach Niche Readers by Barbara Morgenroth on Anne R Allen’s Blog… with Ruth Harris.
- Thinking of Running a Facebook Ad? Proceed with Caution by Martha Conway on Jane Friedman’s blog.
So it can work… if done right. But there are other places you can place ads for your books as well. Check out your favourite social media network to see how it works there.
Why, after all this, do I still think Facebook isn’t for me?
Besides the obvious where they treated me like a criminal – I’m South African and very used to that type of attitude from strangers, but won’t tolerate it from someone I was planning to do business with (Facebook Ads are expensive – convert those Dollars to Rands on Google and decide for yourself what kind of nonsense a starving artist should put up with or not).
Enough of my horrid experience.
Now for why I gritted my teeth and didn’t send the Wild Hunt after them.
My target audience: teenagers and Varsity students. All, who according to the articles below, believe that Facebook is for “old people”.
- Is Facebook for old people? Over-55s flock in as the young leave. The Guardian. 12 Feb 2018.
- Facebook Losing Teen Audience. Now It’s Just Old People Socializing. Tech Times. 3 Feb 2015.
- Study Back Up Creeping Feeling That Facebook Is Just for Old People Now. Gizmodo. 12 Feb 2018.
So my profile, page and ads would’ve done diddly-squat to up sales.
And to make me feel even better:
According to the forums I read, trying to figure out what the photo verification was all about, a lot of people got locked out of their accounts (some have had them for years) and even had their accounts disabled “for not being real people”. All of them, even the ones who got their accounts back, are fed up with Facebook.
And we all know what happens when you are fed up with a service provider…
Also, according to the articles below, Facebook isn’t going to be around for much longer due to the way they treat people, the recent privacy policy scandal (and lots of privacy concerns), their change in algorithms and because teenagers think it’s for old people.
- How Much Longer Will Facebook Be Relevant?
- Why Facebook won’t survive the decade
- How Your Business Can Survive the 2018 “Facebook Apocalypse”
- Can Facebook survive the perfect storm?
- Facebook in Full Death Spiral by 2020
- Facebook Keeps Creepy Secret Files on Users
- Facebook wants to save your face. Should you say yes to facial recognition?
Now that’s a business lesson: treat your customers like criminals/idiots/disposable numbers and they won’t return to do business with you ever again, leaving your business on a downward spiral.
Extra reading (mostly from Jane Friedman’s blog):
- 7 Reasons Why I Deleted My Facebook Account
- Is Facebook Even Worth the Time and Effort for Bloggers?
- Why I am Cutting Back on Facebook Ads
- 6 Reasons Google+ Beats Facebook for Author Platform Building
- Too Many Facebook Friends: Blessing or Curse?
- 3 Principles for Facebook Fan Pages
- 5 Reasons to Use a Facebook Profile (not a Page) to Build Platform
- Facebook Strategy for Authors: In-Depth Discussion
- 5 Principles for Using Facebook
- The Pros and Cons of Using a Facebook Profile But Not an Official Page
It took me a while to get the necessary links – but they’re quite informative and I feel a lot better knowing that not being able to join Facebook won’t be detrimental to my writing career. There’s always a bigger fish 😉 What has your experience been with Facebook? Do you think it’s going to go the same way as MySpace? Which social media network is your favourite? Where do you fans “live” online?
*This was a post for the monthly #AuthorToolboxBlogHop. Check out the participants and rules here.
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There truly was a time when FB Pages were the best promotional tool out there. The constantly changing algorithms and desperation to get people to pay to play (which I have done exactly twice and *still* didn’t get the reach the payment promised) are painful to observe. About 1 percent of my page members see my posts these days. I try to focus much more on my blog, and trying to build my mailing list during personal appearances. I use the mailing list about 4 times a year to announce appearances, nook releases and such. I am not giving up my FB page, but it’s just no longer the most important plank in my platform.
Sharon E. Cathcart
Award-winning Author of Fiction Featuring Atypical Characters
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Thanks for your input, Sharon. It’s scary how little return you got on your investment.
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I have had a FB account for years, before my writing platform and building it. So been around through all the policy changes and stuff, so no problems so far. Have not tried the ads but I have heard the same things you have heard.
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Thanks, Juneta. I hope you get better results when you set up your Page.
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I have the fan page for the last 3 years, along with my personal page, but it is the ads I haven’t tried. I hope so too. Wishing you the best.
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I’ve had two for a long time–one with an avatar (which can’t be verified with a face) so your story just doesn’t make sense. I’m busily deleting FB pages, hopefully, to scale back just to the personal page. Really, I rarely check out the posts and when I do–as you said–there will be something nasty about something I like. Good grief.
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Maybe it’s just new accounts that have these ridiculous rules… Or maybe my prejudice could be felt by the machines while setting up my account 😉 Good luck with cleaning up.
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I’ve had no trouble with FB so far, but I don’t think it does much for my sales. Of course, part of that is that I don’t optimize my account. I’m not sure how to use Google+ effectively, either–or any of the other social media platforms. I think most of my connections come from either Goodreads or from interacting with people through blogs.
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Making real connections with people will probably last longer and lead to more sales in the long run. Just when I think I’ve figure out a social media network, it changes again 😉 Thanks for stopping by, Rebecca.
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I have a FB author page and a personal page. I can’t use my author name to comment on FB timelines because my pen name is not a real person. That’s why i have to have it connected to my real name personal page. I like FB especially my personal page because I can stay connected to home and to friends/family around the world and see pics of my grandkids. Yes, I am one of the aforementioned old folks on FB. LOL. I understand your audience is not on FB, so I think you made the right decision for you. I appreciate your well-thought out and researched argument against FB. Wishing you continued success in your writing!
JQ Rose
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Thanks, Janet 🙂 I’m glad Facebook works for you. I started this post with the intention of explaining how the sign-up process works while I waited for my account to be verified… it turned into something else when things took a turn for the worst. Ah, well.
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I use FB to keep in touch with friends who would normally just drop out of my daily life (ahem… and some family too). My writing page is a tacked-on afterthought, but it’s quite nice to be able to separate my writing out so I don’t send my friends doolally – a lot of them don’t actually care that much about my writing … sigh…
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I use WhatsApp to keep up with friends I don’t see often — and we make a point of meeting up every couple of months. Family members I’m still in contact with probably wish I’d stop talking non-stop 😉
I hear you about not all your friends caring about your writing… Most of mine do — or pretend to — or we don’t talk much… I have a lot of fictional friends — and online friends — to fill up the void 😉
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I’ve been using Facebook for personal connections for years without trouble.
I only recently started using it as a connection to my blog, mostly because I wanted to let audiences choose how they keep track of it (same with Twitter).
I’m not terribly thrilled with it, but I haven’t had any experiences like what you’re describing. I think in recent years they’ve become far more skeptical of new profiles, while well established accounts are mostly left alone.
I imagine over time it will dwindle, but I’d be surprised if it completely stopped, considering how many high profile media personalities and franchises plug into it.
I guess the real question would be “what would replace it?” If something better comes along and receives enough support, that might happen, though many have a substantial investment in the form of connections and posted media. That alone would discourage most from “leaving”, though I could see users simply shifting their new activities over to another platform.
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Thanks for your input, Adam.
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I’m intrigued by this mystery of why they think you’re not a real person, so I decided to plug your name in on Facebook. I found there are about 50 people either named “Ronel Janse van Vuuren” or “Ronel Jansen van Vuuren.” I wonder if that’s why Facebook is flagging it, because the name appears to be quite common, and a bunch of the profiles don’t have pictures attached. In one (I think) Jane Friedman article, there’s a discussion about how even if you don’t have a Facebook author page, a profile is the most handy way to reach your friends and connections directly. I see where you’re coming from though. I have my own more-hate-than-love relationship with Facebook. But it isn’t going away. It’s too valuable in terms of the data about all the people of the world they hold. It may eventually get fixed (somewhat), but it won’t go away.
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Before Facebook, I didn’t know that so many “Ronel Janse van Vuuren”‘s existed! I wonder if some of them are impersonating me… LOL. Thanks for stopping by, Raimey 🙂
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Wow! What a pain for you. Personally, I use Facebook a lot. Privately, as someone who has lived in lots of various foreign locales and will probably never return ‘home’, it’s a great way to stay connected. My author page has quite a good following. The algorithms are a pain, but there are ways to deal with it. Just like any social media platform, there are ‘tricks of the trade’ to learn. But there are plenty of other ways to find readers. You have to find what works for you – not what everyone says you should do. I’m still stumped by Pinterest. I just don’t get it. Why would anyone use it?
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Thank you 🙂 I love Pinterest — now that I’ve figured out to use it 😉 I have different boards for different books, group boards like the #AuthorToolboxBlogHop one I was invited to, a resources for writers board, an inspirational quotes board and one for posts from my blog (among others). It’s a good way to keep subjects together in one place — like everything I’ve found on a folklore creature.
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I’ve tried to do the same but besides projecting myself out to the world, I don’t enjoy the social media itself much. Maybe I have too much social media going on…
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I use Facebook mostly to chat with my family and friends in Messenger or share news of my publications with them, but I don’t use it to actively socialize with writers or build an audience. I find Twitter a much friendlier place for that.
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I prefer Twitter too 🙂
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I started out with an author FB page over eight years ago. I built up thousands of “likes” and my posts were reaching my followers–then FB’s algorithms changed. Fewer of my followers were getting my posts, and to reach a broader market required paying for promotions. I deleted my account and focused on my website, blog, Twitter and Google+ and recently, Instagram.
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Thanks for your input 🙂 I read a great Authortoolbox post this month explaining how Instagram works — I’ll definitely be trying that out.
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When I was in university I loved Facebook. Everyone was using it and the games were addictive. More recently I’ve grown to hate it. There are a lot of hateful comments on posts there, privacy issues, and it’s difficult to get any visibility on your posts.
I toyed with the idea of a Facebook page or profile, but I’ve always been hesitant and ultimately decided it wasn’t worth it. I’m a Young Adult writer, and most of my audience are on Twitter/Instagram/Tumblr anyway.
I do think Facebook is dying out. The only reason I still have an account is to keep in touch with old friends.
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Thanks for your input, Louise 🙂
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love this article. I have a Facebook page and I get about 12 “impressions” per post. That means my posts appear on 10% of my subscriber’s feeds. Yes, these are people who clicked “subscribe” and Facebook only shows my posts to 10% of those people. Of those 10% about 1% actually click the link. So why would I spend countess hours exchanging “likes” for such a paltry return. Almost all my blog traffic comes from Pinterest. So that it where I am focusing my marketing energy.
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Those stats are scary. Thanks for your input, Michele 🙂
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Facebook and US/UK scandal have pushed them (Facebook) into unknown waters. Just my opinion though. Sorry they gave you so much trouble.
Anna from elements of emaginette
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Thanks, Anna 🙂
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Oh my goodness, I’m so sorry you went through all of that. But I’m glad you did the research into whether or not Facebook would be useful for you! Definitely go where your readers will be. 🙂
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Thanks, Caroliena 🙂 This taught me that I can network with other writers anywhere, but that I should focus on where my readers are.
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I actually enjoy Facebook as a broader way to connect, even with their changes. I use my personal profile under my pen name to connect to other authors and bloggers. It helps me to also stay up-to-date with what’s going on with my acquaintances and in the publishing world. And I use my Facebook page to talk about my writing, my struggles, etc. I also share relevant Instagram photos there. And I can easily pre-schedule posts for promo purposes. I think I’d be sad if Facebook went away because I don’t care for Twitter and struggle with that platform. Also, Facebook connects me to those who don’t have a blog and I won’t see in the blogosphere. And people don’t share as much on Instagram, my other favorite platform, so I like Facebook for that deeper connection.
I’ve never heard of that happening to someone creating a profile for the first time. Really strange. Sorry it happened!
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Thanks, Chrys 🙂 I’m glad Facebook works so well for you. I’ll check out your Instagram profile to learn how it works 😉
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I’m pretty much with you when it comes to Facebook. You really can do everything Facebook promises on other social platforms, and especially with a blog! I finally, reluctantly, added author pages to my own personal Facebook page about a month ago. I didn’t run into the problems you’re describing, but I didn’t try to open a brand new account, either. Last week and this week I’m running a Facebook ad for my pen name. I set a strict budget, and I’m tracking as I go. I’m actually really looking forward to seeing the results and I’ll for sure be doing a post on whether or not it was worth it! Great to see your take on this particular platform 🙂
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Thank you 🙂 I look forward to your post about your experience with Facebook ads.
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That’s wild they made you send your ID–I’ve never had to do that, and I have a personal page AND an author page. It wouldn’t even work with my author page since it’s a pen name. With my author profile I mostly just participate in groups. There’s a vast sea of authors on FB and it’s very, very easy to get lost in them, so I can’t say it’s a great platform for promotion unless you’re ALREADY so famous people wanna be your friend and follow your updates. Also, when people follow pages they end up only seeing a small percentage of the posts actually posted to it anyway. FB really does have some sucky features that aren’t user-friendly at all.
Facebook ads are worthless, at least that’s been my experience with them. Blogging creates a much more genuine audience! You’re not really missing out on anything.
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Thanks for your input, Megan 🙂 They probably wanted as much verification as they can get — Raimey found at least 50 Facebook profiles with my name and surname. Crazy! Or maybe there’s something more sinister going on, what with the privacy scandals… But that’s just my conspiracy-theory side coming out to play 😉
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Hey Ronel. I remember reading about horror stories like yours before I set up my Facebook profile. I was really against it (and any other social media) initially. I still feel like FB and I have a passive aggressive relationship, not really getting along but definitely not talking about it. I will keep trying because I believe every tool has its benefit, but I don’t know that I will ever have any fondness for FB.
Have you heard of MeWe? Apparently, it is a FB alternative without the marketing schemes. Who knows how long that will last, but some of the FB crowd mentioned moving over. In the end, do what works for you and what makes you happy. Your audience will feel your dislike of a platform in your engagement if you try to force yourself.
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Thanks for your input, Erika 🙂 I’ll check out MeWe.
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So very sorry to hear of your facebook problems. Now you see, I’d be nervous to send in my ID information online. After all, didn’t facebook tell you you were impersonating someone else? This social media thing can be impossible at times.
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It’s all part of their appeals process… Thanks, Victoria 🙂 Just another reason I take four months of the year off from social media 😉
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It sounds like Facebook have gotten tough! I never had to send a photo when I signed up – my initial profile photo was of Mrs Incredible (and I still got the spam messages saying how pretty I was).
I’ve checked with my teenagers, and most of them do have a Facebook account … so they can have group chats in Messenger (which, I admit, is one of my favourite features as well. It’s also the most reliable way of communicating with my daughter).
I’m in too many Facebook groups, and have a lot of relationships there, mostly with friends and writers (many are now both).
But I see your point: if I wasn’t already connected to people via FB, I don’t know if I’d bother. I have also tried out other social networks (Tsu, MeWe), but they are ghost towns in comparison.
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Thanks for your input, Iola 🙂 Maybe I should’ve used a photo of one of my rottweilers for my profile pic… LOL.
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I’ve used facebook since about 2010 I think and have noticed it changing. I’ve done some paid ads, and found they were ok, but not outstanding. I’ve stopped with the ads for now. Things will change again, so I’ll keep an eye on it.
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Thanks for your input, Kristina 🙂
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I am so so sorry this event happened to yoU! How disheartening. I have been using Facebook since 2008 but I have always hated it. Why can’t people just pick up the phone and talk to me. 🙂 I do have two business pages. I’ve never really honed the author page though. I love my inspirational page. I have developed a following over the years. I wish you the best of luck Ronel 🙂
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Thanks, Erika 🙂 I love your inspirational tweets on Twitter — I’m sure if your Facebook page is the same, you have avid followers 🙂
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Speaking for myself, I’ve mainly used Facebook as an additional means of promotion rather than the primary one. Just going by numbers, there are potentially a lot more people seeing my Twitter or WordPress accounts than seeing my Facebook page. But, I keep it anyways because, maybe it will prove it’s worth at some point.
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Thanks for you input 🙂
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Sorry you had to go through all that Ronel, it sounds crazy. I’ve been on Facebook for years and always had a love/hate relationship with it. It doesn’t sound like it’s getting any better, either. I just have a personal page and so far have been lucky to have avoided all that nastiness that others have encountered there. I guess I might have to have an author page at some point. 😉
My son and a vast majority of his and my daughter’s friends are on Facebook, as well as other networks. I think they use it to stay in touch with others and it’s the most popular social network. But like most things, I think it’s a case of trial and error and going with what you’re most comfortable with. I’ve tried out a lot of social networks and I’m still working on where exactly my readers are. I’ve cut it down to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and blogging. Even though there are obvious issues with Facebook, I’ve found all these networks to be the most rewarding and sociable of the lot.
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Thanks for your input, Debbie 🙂
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I’m with you on Facebook. I use it, personally and professionally, but it has become my least favourite form of social media. I feel like it takes so much more man hours to benefit from Facebook, than it does to utilize my blog, or twitter even.
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Thanks for commenting. We need social media networks that work for us, not the other way around.
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Wow! So sorry to hear you’ve had such a bad experience! I’m not super facebook savvy either, but I keep hearing how important it is for business from my friends as well. I have to say, my jury is still out, though after reading this, I think I may feel just a little less badly about my lack of skills lol.
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